Showing posts with label Hell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hell. Show all posts

Saturday, June 13, 2020

Ghosts Are Real, Spirits of the Dead, And They're Not (Just) Devils/Demons

Hot take:
Ghosts are real, as in spirits of the dead, and not (just) devils/demons.

Reasoning:

#1

First, we must dissuade the idea that earth and hell are separate and don't overlap. Why?

We know there are three heavens, sky, space, and the abode of God.

Similarly, there are three hells, sheol/hades, gehenna, tartarus.

We know the first heaven, the sky, intersects earth, so what prevents the first hell from intersecting with earth?

Nothing. We get a clue on what the first hell is, sheol, grave. GRAVE. Graves intersect with earth.

This takes care of man appointed once, the judgment. If hell intersects with earth, then the dead are in judgment.

#2

Bible commands against divination of the dead.

Why would the Bible command against something that doesn't exist, and not say that is the actual reason why not to do it?

It doesn't say divination of the dead is not allowed because it is impossible or that they don't exist. (In fact, the reasoning is the same for commands against horoscope, it says not to look at the stars because the heathen are dismayed at them, not that it doesn't exist)

Also, don't twist this as me saying we should contact ghosts or whatever. Yeah, don't.

#3

The encounter with my namesake Samuel the prophet by Saul and the witch of Endor.

Nowhere in the passage does it actually say it was impossible for Samuel to come up. The reasoning is often convoluted to try to explain away the encounter, like saying it was God who did it (God is not present in the text), or it was a devil impostor (except it gave a prophecy that came true).

#4

Jesus appearing as a resurrected in front of the disciples and them mistaking Him for a spirit, He did not say, "lol, dead spirits don't walk the earth, guys", He said, a spirit does not have flesh and bones. Why didn't' He settle it once and for all?

#5

The testimonies of atheists and other unbelievers in the deathbed. Many instances of atheists and others crying out they are in hell just before death. That is an example of intersection of hell and earth, even if just spiritual.

#6

The reports of ghosts themselves. Ghosts are often reported to be in a loop of suffering. This would make sense if they are in hell while also on earth.

This does not prevent the fact that the devils/demons can disguise themselves as ghosts, they can. But I highly doubt most reported instances are all devils/demons.

Friday, November 10, 2017

Did Jesus Burn In Hell for 3 Days and 3 Nights?

Q: Did Jesus burn in Hell for 3 days and 3 nights?
A: Jesus descended into Paradise in Hell, but did not burn in Hell.

Psalms 16:10
Old Testament saints' souls went down after death, not up.
No contradiction to Ecclesiastes 3:21 as spirits, not soul, go up.
Acts 2:27 applies this to the death of Christ.

Luke 16:19-31
Story of rich man, and Lazarus
Abraham's bosom/Paradise of the Old Testament saints, fiery hell was across it in a gulf and thus separate, but both hell + paradise as one were considered hell.
Ephesians 4:8-10
Jesus descending, but never says He went to the part that was burning.
The captives here are the Old Testament saints.

Luke 23:43
Jesus says to the thief he will be with Him in Paradise.
This is not heaven because He did not ascend to the Father yet according to John 20:17, hence this means He descended to Paradise next to hell.


I Peter 3:18-20
What Jesus did underneath the Earth along with taking captivity captive is preaching to the spirits in prison who were disobedient before the Flood.


2 Corinthians 12:4 + Revelation 2:7 Paradise from below now transported to Heaven above then New Jerusalem of Heaven transported to the Earth